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Stock Market Bottom? What Market Bottom?

Stock-Markets / Stocks Bear Market May 22, 2009 - 12:57 PM GMT

By: Mike_Shedlock

Stock-Markets

Best Financial Markets Analysis ArticleInquiring minds keep asking "Is The Bottom In?" Of course, no one knows for sure. However, I believe it is not, and one of the reasons is the complete collapse in S&P earnings.


Earnings Estimates

In Is That Recovery We See? John Mauldin posted the following chart of earnings estimates.


The S&P closed Thursday at 888. That's a richly priced PE of 31. Let's assume that earnings recover to $48. That's still a richly priced PE of 18.5. A bear market bottom might sport a PE of 10-12 but let's be generous and use 15.

15*$28.51 would put the S&P 500 at 382!
Let's be more generous and use an earnings estimate of $48.
15*$48 would put the S&P 500 at 720!

Those expecting still higher earnings need to consider the Effect of Household Deleveraging on Housing, Consumption and the Stock Market.

No matter how you slice and dice things, fundamentally the stock market is very pricey.

Looking For Leaders

For the sake of argument, let's assume that for whatever reason the bottom is in. What sectors should one prefer?

To help decide, let's take a look at some historical charts of the 2000 Nasdaq bubble.

Intel (INTC) Monthly



Cisco (CSCO) Monthly


JDS Uniphase (JDSU) Monthly


Microsoft (MSFT) Monthly


Many leaders of the tech bubble had an initial rebound after the bubble popped. Those leaders then languished for years to come. Many other technology stocks did not survive at all. To be fair there are some huge success stories like Apple (AAPL). However, Apple remade itself in a new space rather than by competing in computers.

Credit Housing Bubble Aftermath


Financial stocks were the leaders in the housing and credit bubble that just popped. Here are a few of the survivors the Fed is protecting, with an additional homebuilder thrown in for good measure.

Citigroup (C) Monthly


Bank of America (BAC) Monthly


Wells Fargo (WFC) Monthly


Toll Brothers (TOL) Monthly


Search For Leadership

There was some serious money that could have been made with excellent timing in the financial sector this Spring. However, that is an opportunity gone by and not worth dwelling on. Besides, opportunities are easier to make up than losses.

Looking ahead, it's difficult to say what sectors will lead the next bull market (energy, alternative energy, gold, pharmaceuticals, etc. are all possible candidates) but whatever the leaders will be, financials and homebuilders are not good candidates.

Investors should look for new opportunities as history strongly suggests the last bubble will not be re-blown. Traders have no such concerns but do need to consider the current risk-reward scenario of the short squeeze propelling financials in light of the above historical data.

By Mike "Mish" Shedlock
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com

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